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tom a écrit:c'est pas grave........................
non mais je déconne hein c'est un super sujet de collec mine de rien
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A mes yeux, c'est un petit morceau de culture et ça ne fait jamais de mal.gustwo a écrit:non mais je déconne hein c'est un super sujet de collec mine de rien
Merci tom
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J'ai récupéré des réchaud réglementaire de l'armé qui ressemble au réchaud esbit (d’ailleurs je me demande qi c'est pas des Esbit , je vérifierais ce soir ) mais ils ne se plient qu'une fois ou alors faut faire tout tout doucement !
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c'est le principe,gustwo a écrit: mais ils ne se plient qu'une fois ou alors faut faire tout tout doucement !
sâchant qu'il y en a dans chaque rasquette,
c'est du consommable .....
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Merci Tom.
C'est toujours intéressant de savoir d'où viennent les choses.
(Rien que "Esbit", j'avais jamais envisagé que ça puisse vouloir dire qqch...)
C'est toujours intéressant de savoir d'où viennent les choses.
(Rien que "Esbit", j'avais jamais envisagé que ça puisse vouloir dire qqch...)
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Les Ptites patelettes pliées vers le bas si tu veux pas cramer ta table, histoire de surélever le réchaud!
A propos, quun sait il s'il y a plus d'interet de puissance calorifique à utiliser un esbit (qui pu) plutôt qu'un petit carré de sciure de bois compressé écolo genre allume feu... ?
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Franky a écrit:
Les Ptites patelettes pliées vers le bas si tu veux pas cramer ta table, histoire de surélever le réchaud!
Ah? Et mes feux de camp sur le plancher du salon, c'est pas bon non plus alors?
Pour réchauffer une conserve, les deux sont ok. Le esbit a l'avantage d'une meilleure résistance à l'humidité.Franky a écrit:
A propos, quun sait il s'il y a plus d'interet de puissance calorifique à utiliser un esbit (qui pu) plutôt qu'un petit carré de sciure de bois compressé écolo genre allume feu... ?
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Mutof a écrit:Le esbit a l'avantage d'une meilleure résistance à l'humidité.
mais pas à la chaleur,
c'est même le contraire....
les esbit transpirent et partent en miettes à hautes températures .....
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De fait !
Mais je vis en Belgique... L'humidité, je connais. La chaleur
Mais je vis en Belgique... L'humidité, je connais. La chaleur
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Bonjour à tous
Je suis heureux que tu parle des blocs de type Hexamine (Esbit par exemple) car je voulais moi même faire un sujet.
Il faut savoir que ces blocs sont extrêmement nocifs et dégagent, entre autre, des vapeurs d'acide cyanhydrique, d’oxyde d'azote, d’ammoniaque...
Les émanations sont donc toxiques si respirées pouvant aller jusqu’à une issue fatale (cela est arrivé à des soldats les utilisant en espace confiné. Je sais, c'est stupide mais démontre la dangerosité des ce carburant) et si ingérées.
Un ami Légionnaire m'a fait part d'un certain nombre de problèmes liés à leur ingestion (pas comme un sucre dans le café) minime et bien entendue involontaire découlant de leurs manipulation.
Il existe aujourd'hui de nombreuses solutions non toxique et écologiques comme certains gels éthanol ou des blocs tels les WetFire Tinder (liste non exhaustive)...
Je pense que ce post va susciter une polémique !!!
En tous les cas : je ne vend ni n'utilise ces blocs.
Je suis heureux que tu parle des blocs de type Hexamine (Esbit par exemple) car je voulais moi même faire un sujet.
Il faut savoir que ces blocs sont extrêmement nocifs et dégagent, entre autre, des vapeurs d'acide cyanhydrique, d’oxyde d'azote, d’ammoniaque...
Les émanations sont donc toxiques si respirées pouvant aller jusqu’à une issue fatale (cela est arrivé à des soldats les utilisant en espace confiné. Je sais, c'est stupide mais démontre la dangerosité des ce carburant) et si ingérées.
Un ami Légionnaire m'a fait part d'un certain nombre de problèmes liés à leur ingestion (pas comme un sucre dans le café) minime et bien entendue involontaire découlant de leurs manipulation.
Il existe aujourd'hui de nombreuses solutions non toxique et écologiques comme certains gels éthanol ou des blocs tels les WetFire Tinder (liste non exhaustive)...
Je pense que ce post va susciter une polémique !!!
En tous les cas : je ne vend ni n'utilise ces blocs.
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Polémique, non, justement, c'est intéressant!
N'est-ce pas le cas avec la plupart des carburants solides du coup??
Je fais bien de rester au bois moi
N'est-ce pas le cas avec la plupart des carburants solides du coup??
Je fais bien de rester au bois moi
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non,GreenSpiritOutdoors a écrit:
Je pense que ce post va susciter une polémique !!!
je ne pense pas
merci à toi pour les infos,
bon,
j'avoue en utiliser de temps à autres....
ton message me fera y regarder à deux fois à présent.
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@ Helgor, merci pour ta participation car je viens d'apprendre beaucoup sur la dangerosité des esbit que j'utilise régulièrement (pour moi, ça a toujours été sans conséquence mais la chance, ça aide).
En tout cas, ton post me permettra de prendre les précautions qui vont bien et c'est tant mieux.
Serge
En tout cas, ton post me permettra de prendre les précautions qui vont bien et c'est tant mieux.
Serge
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précisions importantes : pour ce qui est des armées en général, elles utilisent ou utilisaient des tablettes contenant de la Trioxane qui est très toxique.
Pour ce qui est des Esbit, les sites indiquent qu'elles sont non toxiques.
Pourtant, elle contiennent de l'Hexamine et il semblerait que les instruction sur la boite préconisent des précautions étranges pour un produit non toxique ?!
Je ne pense pas m’être trompé pour les Esbit mais dans le doute : je souhaites vous soumettre sa Material Safety Data Sheet qui est un document officiel et obligatoire.
Je fait donc tout particulièrement appel à ceux ayant des notions de chimie !!!
Désolé, copié collé d'un PDF.
Pour ce qui est des Esbit, les sites indiquent qu'elles sont non toxiques.
Pourtant, elle contiennent de l'Hexamine et il semblerait que les instruction sur la boite préconisent des précautions étranges pour un produit non toxique ?!
Je ne pense pas m’être trompé pour les Esbit mais dans le doute : je souhaites vous soumettre sa Material Safety Data Sheet qui est un document officiel et obligatoire.
Je fait donc tout particulièrement appel à ceux ayant des notions de chimie !!!
Désolé, copié collé d'un PDF.
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Safety Data Sheet
according to EC-Regulation 91/155/EEC
1. Identification of the substance/preparation and of the company/undertaking
Identification of the substance or preparation
Esbit
Use of the substance/preparation
Refer to description of material or preparation.
Company/undertaking identification
Gummi Noller GmbH, Hanfwiesenstr. 37, D -73614, Schorndorf
Telephone +49 (0)7181/5033, Fax +49 (0)7181/5035
Emergency telephone / Office for advice
Advisory office in case of poisoning:
Tel.:
Telephone number of the company in case of emergencies:
Tel. +49 (0)7181/5033
2. Composition/information on ingredients
2.1 Chemical name content
% symbol R-phrases CAS EINECS,
ELINCS
Methenamine 80 - 100 F 11-42/43 202-905-8
For complete wording of the R-phrases, refer to point 16.
3. Hazards identification
3.1 To people
See point 11 and 15.
Preparation is classified as hazardous in the sense of directive 1999/45/EC.
Product is highly flammable.
Product results in a sensitizing effect.
3.2 To the environment
See point 12.
4. First aid measures
4.1 Inhalation
Remove person from danger area.
Supply person with fresh air and consult doctor according to symptoms.
Keep Data Sheet available.
4.2 Eye contact
Wash thoroughly for several minutes using copious water. Seek medical help if necessary.
Keep Data Sheet available.
4.3 Skin contact
Wash thoroughly using copious water - remove contaminated clothing immediately. If skin irritation occurs (redness etc.), consult
doctor.
Keep Data Sheet available.
4.4 Ingestion
Call doctor immediately - have Data Sheet available.
4.5 Special resources necessary for first aid
Indications for the physician:
Delayed effects from exposure can be expected.
5. Fire-fighting measures
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5.1 Suitable extinguishing media
Alcohol resistant foam
CO2
Water jet spray
5.2 Extinguishing media which must not be used for safety reasons
n.g.
5.3 Special exposure hazards arising from the substance or preparation itself,
combustion products, resulting gases
In case of fire the following can develop:
Formaldehyd
Ammoniak
Nitro gases
Hydrocyanic acid (hydrogen cyanide)
5.4 Special protective equipment for fire-fighters
Protective respirator with independent air supply
According to size of fire
Chemical protection suit
5.5 Further information
Dispose of contaminated extinction water according to official regulations.
6. Accidental release measures
Refer to point 13. and for personal protection refer to point 8.
6.1 Personal precautions
Avoid build up of dust.
Ensure sufficient supply of air.
Avoid inhalation, and contact with eyes or skin.
6.2 Environmental measures
Prevent from entering drainage system.
If accidental entry into drainage system occurs, inform responsible authorities.
6.3 Methods for cleaning up
Collect mechanically and dispose of according to point 13.
Flush residue using copious water.
7. Handling and storage
7.1 Handling
Tips for safe handling:
See point 6.1
Ensure good ventilation.
Avoid build up of dust.
Keep away from sources of ignition - Do not smoke.
Eating, drinking, smoking, as well as food-storage, is prohibited in work-room.
Observe directions on label and instructions for use.
Use working methods according to operating instructions.
7.2. Storage
Requirements for storage rooms and
containers:
Store products only unopened, in original packing.
Not to be stored in gangways or stair wells.
Observe regulations for keeping separated.
Special storage conditions:
Protect against moisture and store closed.
8. Exposure controls/personal protection
Ensure good ventilation. This can be achieved by local suction or general air extraction.
If this is insufficient to maintain the concentration under the OES, MEL or MAK values, suitable breathing protection should be worn.
Applies only if maximum permissible exposure values are listed here.
Chemical name content % OES, MEL, MAK,
TRK
BMGV,
BAT
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general dust limit 10 mg/m3 (inhal. dust), 4
mg/m3 (respir. dust)
8.1 Respiratory protection:
On dust formation:
Breathing mask with fine dust filter necessary (EN 143).
8.2 Hand protection: Rubber gloves (EN 374).
8.3 Eye protection: Normally not necessary.
8.4 Skin protection: Protective working garments (e.g. safety shoes EN 344, longsleeved
protective working garments)
Additional information on hand protection - No tests have been performed.
Selection made for preparations according to the best available knowledge and information on the ingredients.
Selection of materials derived from glove manufacturer's indications.
Final selection of glove material must be made taking the breakthrough times, permeation rates
and degradation into account.
Selection of a suitable glove depends not only on the material but also on other quality characteristics
and varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
In the case of preparations the resistance of glove materials cannot be calculated in advance
so it has to be tested before use. The exact breakthrough time of the glove material can be
requested from the protective glove manufacturer and must be observed.
9. Physical and chemical properties
Physical state: Solid
Colour: White
Odour: Ammonia
10 % pH-value: k.D.v.
Boiling point / range (°C): k.D.v.
Melting point / range (°C): 280 (subl.)
Flash point (°C): k.D.v.
Flammability (solid/gas): k.D.v.
Ignition temperature: 390°C
Autoflammability: k.D.v.
Minimum limit of explosion: k.D.v.
Maximum limit of explosion: k.D.v.
The product is capable of causing a dust explosion.
20 mg/m3
Relative density (g/ml): 1,33
Bulk density: k.D.v.
Solubility in water: 100 - 874 g/l/20°C, 844 g/l/60°C
Vapour density (air = 1): 4,84 , References
Miscibility: Alcohol , Chloroform
10. Stability and reactivity
10.1 Conditions to avoid
Protect from humidity.
Strong heat
10.2 Materials to avoid
Avoid contact with oxidizing agents.
Aluminium
Tin
Zinc
Contact with strong acids leads to strong exothermic reaction.
Peroxides
Halogen halides
10.3 Hazardous decomposition products
See point 5.3
Formaldehyde
11. Toxicological information
11.1 Acute toxicity and immediate effects
11.1.1 Ingestion, LD50 rat oral (mg/kg): 9200 , (Particulars of main substances contained)
11.1.2 Inhalation, LC50 rat inhal.(mg/l/4h): n.v.
11.1.3 Skin contact, LD50 rat dermal (mg/kg): n.v.
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11.1.4 Eye contact: n.v.
11.2 Delayed and chronic effects
11.2.1 Sensitization: Yes (inhalation and skin contact)
11.2.2 Carcinogenicity: k.D.v.
11.2.3 Mutagenicity: k.D.v.
11.2.4 Reproductive toxicity: k.D.v.
11.2.5 Narcosis: k.D.v.
11.3. Further information
Classification according to calculation procedure.
The following may occur:
Irritation of the eyes
Inhalation:
Irritant to mucosa of the nose and throat.
Coughing
Respiratory distress
Ingestion:
Nausea
Vomiting
Gastrointestinal disturbances
Kidney damage
12. Ecological information
Water hazard class (Germany): 1
Self classification: Yes (VwVwS)
Persistence and degradability:
Abiotically degradable.
Not readily biodegradable
In case of contact with water:
Hydrolysis
Behaviour in sewage plants: n.v.
Aquatic toxicity:
Toxicity to fish:
LC50/96h 49 800mg/l Pimephales promelas *
Toxic to marine organisms:
NOEC/336h 1500 mg/l Selenastrum capricornutum *
Escherischia coli TGR/12h 500 mg/l *
Ecological toxicity: k.D.v.
* Methenamine
13. Disposal considerations
13.1 für den Stoff / Zubereitung / Restmengen
EC disposal code no.:
The waste codes are recommendations based on the scheduled use of this product.
Owing to the user's specific conditions for use and disposal, other waste codes may be
allocated under certain circumstances.
07 07 99 - wastes not otherwise specified
07 01 99 - wastes not otherwise specified
Recommendation:
Pay attention to local and national official regulations
E.g. dispose at suitable refuse site.
E.g. suitable incineration plant.
13.2 für verunreinigtes Verpackungsmaterial
See point 13.1
Pay attention to local and national official regulations
Uncontaminated packaging can be recycled.
Dispose of packaging that cannot be cleaned in the same manner as the substance.
14. Transport information
General statements
UN-Number: 1328
Road/Rail-transport (ADR/RID)
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Class/packing-group: 4.1/III
Classification code: F1
LQ: 9
Transport by sea
IMDG-code: 4.1/III (class/packing-group)
EmS: F-A, S-G
Marine Pollutant: n.a.
HEXAMETHYLENETETRAMINE MIXTURE
Transport by air
IATA: 4.1/-/III (class/secondary danger/packing-group)
Hexamethylenetetramine mixture
Additional information:
Mindermengenregelungen werden hier nicht beachtet.
Danger code and packing code on request.
15. Regulatory information
Classification according to Dangerous Product Regulations incl. EC Directives
(67/548/EEC and 1999/45/EC)
Symbols: F/Xn
Indications of danger:
Highly flammable
Harmful
R-phrases:
11 Highly flammable.
42/43 May cause sensitization by inhalation and skin contact.
S-phrases:
(2) Keep out of the reach of children.
13 Keep away from food, drink and animal feedingstuffs.
22 Do not breathe dust.
24 Avoid contact with skin.
35 This material and its container must be disposed of in a safe way.
37 Wear suitable gloves.
45 In case of accident or if you feel unwell, seek medical advice immediately (show the label where possible).
Additions:
Methenamine
Observe restrictions: Yes
Observe youth employment law (German regulation).
Observe law on protection of expectant mothers (German regulation).
Observe restrictive guidelines 76/769/EEC, 1999/51/EC, 1999/77/EC
16. Other information
These details refer to the product as it is delivered.
Storage class VCI (Germany): 4.1 B
Revised points: 10,16
Hommel: 870
The following phrases represent the prescribed Rphrases
for the ingredients (designated in point 2):
11 Highly flammable.
42/43 May cause sensitization by inhalation and skin contact.
Legend:
n.a. = not applicable / n.v., k.D.v. = not available / n.g. = not checked / OES = Occupational exposure standard
MEL = Maximum exposure limit / BMGV = Biological monitoring guidance value / MAK = Maximum concentration for work place
(Germany)
(Germany) / TRK = Technical guidance concentration (Germany) / BAT = Biological tolerance for work place (Germany)
VbF = Regulations for flammable liquids (Germany) / TRbF = Technical regulations for flammable liquids (Germany)
WGK = water hazard class (Germany) - WGK 3 = very hazardous, WGK 2 = hazardous, WGK 1 = slightly hazardous to water
VOC = Volatile organic compounds / AOX = Adsorbable organic halogen compounds
VwVwS = Administrative Order relating to substances hazardous to water (Germany)
The statements made here should describe the product with regard to the necessary safety precautions - they are
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not meant to guarantee definite characteristics - but they are based on our present up-to-date knowledge.
No responsibility.
These statements were made by:
Chemical Check GmbH, Beim Staumberge 3, D-32839 Steinheim, Tel.: 01805-CHEMICAL / 01805-
243 642, Fax: 05233-941790
© by Chemical Check GmbH Gefahrstoffberatung. The copying or changing of this document
is forbidden except with consent of the Chemical Check GmbH Gefahrstoffberatung.
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Esbit
Safety Data Sheet
according to EC-Regulation 91/155/EEC
1. Identification of the substance/preparation and of the company/undertaking
Identification of the substance or preparation
Esbit
Use of the substance/preparation
Refer to description of material or preparation.
Company/undertaking identification
Gummi Noller GmbH, Hanfwiesenstr. 37, D -73614, Schorndorf
Telephone +49 (0)7181/5033, Fax +49 (0)7181/5035
Emergency telephone / Office for advice
Advisory office in case of poisoning:
Tel.:
Telephone number of the company in case of emergencies:
Tel. +49 (0)7181/5033
2. Composition/information on ingredients
2.1 Chemical name content
% symbol R-phrases CAS EINECS,
ELINCS
Methenamine 80 - 100 F 11-42/43 202-905-8
For complete wording of the R-phrases, refer to point 16.
3. Hazards identification
3.1 To people
See point 11 and 15.
Preparation is classified as hazardous in the sense of directive 1999/45/EC.
Product is highly flammable.
Product results in a sensitizing effect.
3.2 To the environment
See point 12.
4. First aid measures
4.1 Inhalation
Remove person from danger area.
Supply person with fresh air and consult doctor according to symptoms.
Keep Data Sheet available.
4.2 Eye contact
Wash thoroughly for several minutes using copious water. Seek medical help if necessary.
Keep Data Sheet available.
4.3 Skin contact
Wash thoroughly using copious water - remove contaminated clothing immediately. If skin irritation occurs (redness etc.), consult
doctor.
Keep Data Sheet available.
4.4 Ingestion
Call doctor immediately - have Data Sheet available.
4.5 Special resources necessary for first aid
Indications for the physician:
Delayed effects from exposure can be expected.
5. Fire-fighting measures
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5.1 Suitable extinguishing media
Alcohol resistant foam
CO2
Water jet spray
5.2 Extinguishing media which must not be used for safety reasons
n.g.
5.3 Special exposure hazards arising from the substance or preparation itself,
combustion products, resulting gases
In case of fire the following can develop:
Formaldehyd
Ammoniak
Nitro gases
Hydrocyanic acid (hydrogen cyanide)
5.4 Special protective equipment for fire-fighters
Protective respirator with independent air supply
According to size of fire
Chemical protection suit
5.5 Further information
Dispose of contaminated extinction water according to official regulations.
6. Accidental release measures
Refer to point 13. and for personal protection refer to point 8.
6.1 Personal precautions
Avoid build up of dust.
Ensure sufficient supply of air.
Avoid inhalation, and contact with eyes or skin.
6.2 Environmental measures
Prevent from entering drainage system.
If accidental entry into drainage system occurs, inform responsible authorities.
6.3 Methods for cleaning up
Collect mechanically and dispose of according to point 13.
Flush residue using copious water.
7. Handling and storage
7.1 Handling
Tips for safe handling:
See point 6.1
Ensure good ventilation.
Avoid build up of dust.
Keep away from sources of ignition - Do not smoke.
Eating, drinking, smoking, as well as food-storage, is prohibited in work-room.
Observe directions on label and instructions for use.
Use working methods according to operating instructions.
7.2. Storage
Requirements for storage rooms and
containers:
Store products only unopened, in original packing.
Not to be stored in gangways or stair wells.
Observe regulations for keeping separated.
Special storage conditions:
Protect against moisture and store closed.
8. Exposure controls/personal protection
Ensure good ventilation. This can be achieved by local suction or general air extraction.
If this is insufficient to maintain the concentration under the OES, MEL or MAK values, suitable breathing protection should be worn.
Applies only if maximum permissible exposure values are listed here.
Chemical name content % OES, MEL, MAK,
TRK
BMGV,
BAT
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general dust limit 10 mg/m3 (inhal. dust), 4
mg/m3 (respir. dust)
8.1 Respiratory protection:
On dust formation:
Breathing mask with fine dust filter necessary (EN 143).
8.2 Hand protection: Rubber gloves (EN 374).
8.3 Eye protection: Normally not necessary.
8.4 Skin protection: Protective working garments (e.g. safety shoes EN 344, longsleeved
protective working garments)
Additional information on hand protection - No tests have been performed.
Selection made for preparations according to the best available knowledge and information on the ingredients.
Selection of materials derived from glove manufacturer's indications.
Final selection of glove material must be made taking the breakthrough times, permeation rates
and degradation into account.
Selection of a suitable glove depends not only on the material but also on other quality characteristics
and varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
In the case of preparations the resistance of glove materials cannot be calculated in advance
so it has to be tested before use. The exact breakthrough time of the glove material can be
requested from the protective glove manufacturer and must be observed.
9. Physical and chemical properties
Physical state: Solid
Colour: White
Odour: Ammonia
10 % pH-value: k.D.v.
Boiling point / range (°C): k.D.v.
Melting point / range (°C): 280 (subl.)
Flash point (°C): k.D.v.
Flammability (solid/gas): k.D.v.
Ignition temperature: 390°C
Autoflammability: k.D.v.
Minimum limit of explosion: k.D.v.
Maximum limit of explosion: k.D.v.
The product is capable of causing a dust explosion.
20 mg/m3
Relative density (g/ml): 1,33
Bulk density: k.D.v.
Solubility in water: 100 - 874 g/l/20°C, 844 g/l/60°C
Vapour density (air = 1): 4,84 , References
Miscibility: Alcohol , Chloroform
10. Stability and reactivity
10.1 Conditions to avoid
Protect from humidity.
Strong heat
10.2 Materials to avoid
Avoid contact with oxidizing agents.
Aluminium
Tin
Zinc
Contact with strong acids leads to strong exothermic reaction.
Peroxides
Halogen halides
10.3 Hazardous decomposition products
See point 5.3
Formaldehyde
11. Toxicological information
11.1 Acute toxicity and immediate effects
11.1.1 Ingestion, LD50 rat oral (mg/kg): 9200 , (Particulars of main substances contained)
11.1.2 Inhalation, LC50 rat inhal.(mg/l/4h): n.v.
11.1.3 Skin contact, LD50 rat dermal (mg/kg): n.v.
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11.1.4 Eye contact: n.v.
11.2 Delayed and chronic effects
11.2.1 Sensitization: Yes (inhalation and skin contact)
11.2.2 Carcinogenicity: k.D.v.
11.2.3 Mutagenicity: k.D.v.
11.2.4 Reproductive toxicity: k.D.v.
11.2.5 Narcosis: k.D.v.
11.3. Further information
Classification according to calculation procedure.
The following may occur:
Irritation of the eyes
Inhalation:
Irritant to mucosa of the nose and throat.
Coughing
Respiratory distress
Ingestion:
Nausea
Vomiting
Gastrointestinal disturbances
Kidney damage
12. Ecological information
Water hazard class (Germany): 1
Self classification: Yes (VwVwS)
Persistence and degradability:
Abiotically degradable.
Not readily biodegradable
In case of contact with water:
Hydrolysis
Behaviour in sewage plants: n.v.
Aquatic toxicity:
Toxicity to fish:
LC50/96h 49 800mg/l Pimephales promelas *
Toxic to marine organisms:
NOEC/336h 1500 mg/l Selenastrum capricornutum *
Escherischia coli TGR/12h 500 mg/l *
Ecological toxicity: k.D.v.
* Methenamine
13. Disposal considerations
13.1 für den Stoff / Zubereitung / Restmengen
EC disposal code no.:
The waste codes are recommendations based on the scheduled use of this product.
Owing to the user's specific conditions for use and disposal, other waste codes may be
allocated under certain circumstances.
07 07 99 - wastes not otherwise specified
07 01 99 - wastes not otherwise specified
Recommendation:
Pay attention to local and national official regulations
E.g. dispose at suitable refuse site.
E.g. suitable incineration plant.
13.2 für verunreinigtes Verpackungsmaterial
See point 13.1
Pay attention to local and national official regulations
Uncontaminated packaging can be recycled.
Dispose of packaging that cannot be cleaned in the same manner as the substance.
14. Transport information
General statements
UN-Number: 1328
Road/Rail-transport (ADR/RID)
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Class/packing-group: 4.1/III
Classification code: F1
LQ: 9
Transport by sea
IMDG-code: 4.1/III (class/packing-group)
EmS: F-A, S-G
Marine Pollutant: n.a.
HEXAMETHYLENETETRAMINE MIXTURE
Transport by air
IATA: 4.1/-/III (class/secondary danger/packing-group)
Hexamethylenetetramine mixture
Additional information:
Mindermengenregelungen werden hier nicht beachtet.
Danger code and packing code on request.
15. Regulatory information
Classification according to Dangerous Product Regulations incl. EC Directives
(67/548/EEC and 1999/45/EC)
Symbols: F/Xn
Indications of danger:
Highly flammable
Harmful
R-phrases:
11 Highly flammable.
42/43 May cause sensitization by inhalation and skin contact.
S-phrases:
(2) Keep out of the reach of children.
13 Keep away from food, drink and animal feedingstuffs.
22 Do not breathe dust.
24 Avoid contact with skin.
35 This material and its container must be disposed of in a safe way.
37 Wear suitable gloves.
45 In case of accident or if you feel unwell, seek medical advice immediately (show the label where possible).
Additions:
Methenamine
Observe restrictions: Yes
Observe youth employment law (German regulation).
Observe law on protection of expectant mothers (German regulation).
Observe restrictive guidelines 76/769/EEC, 1999/51/EC, 1999/77/EC
16. Other information
These details refer to the product as it is delivered.
Storage class VCI (Germany): 4.1 B
Revised points: 10,16
Hommel: 870
The following phrases represent the prescribed Rphrases
for the ingredients (designated in point 2):
11 Highly flammable.
42/43 May cause sensitization by inhalation and skin contact.
Legend:
n.a. = not applicable / n.v., k.D.v. = not available / n.g. = not checked / OES = Occupational exposure standard
MEL = Maximum exposure limit / BMGV = Biological monitoring guidance value / MAK = Maximum concentration for work place
(Germany)
(Germany) / TRK = Technical guidance concentration (Germany) / BAT = Biological tolerance for work place (Germany)
VbF = Regulations for flammable liquids (Germany) / TRbF = Technical regulations for flammable liquids (Germany)
WGK = water hazard class (Germany) - WGK 3 = very hazardous, WGK 2 = hazardous, WGK 1 = slightly hazardous to water
VOC = Volatile organic compounds / AOX = Adsorbable organic halogen compounds
VwVwS = Administrative Order relating to substances hazardous to water (Germany)
The statements made here should describe the product with regard to the necessary safety precautions - they are
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not meant to guarantee definite characteristics - but they are based on our present up-to-date knowledge.
No responsibility.
These statements were made by:
Chemical Check GmbH, Beim Staumberge 3, D-32839 Steinheim, Tel.: 01805-CHEMICAL / 01805-
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Re: historique meta/esbit
sujet très intéressant Merci Helgor d'avoir relancé ce post.
Je laisse à celles et ceux qui ont des notions de chimie s'exprimer sur ton copier/ coller.
Perso j'essaye d'utiliser le moins possible de produits contenant des substances toxiques pour l'allumage d'un feu.
Quoique la dernière fois , j'ai utilisé de l'essence pour l'allumer ... il faisait trop humide.........
Je laisse à celles et ceux qui ont des notions de chimie s'exprimer sur ton copier/ coller.
Perso j'essaye d'utiliser le moins possible de produits contenant des substances toxiques pour l'allumage d'un feu.
Quoique la dernière fois , j'ai utilisé de l'essence pour l'allumer ... il faisait trop humide.........
Eld- Messages : 1895
Date d'inscription : 01/02/2012
Age : 46
Localisation : region toulousaine
Re: historique meta/esbit
Pas besoin de produits chimiques quand on a du bois gras et/ou de l'écorce de boulotPerso j'essaye d'utiliser le moins possible de produits contenant des substances toxiques pour l'allumage d'un feu.
Re: historique meta/esbit
ah ouais quand même !Eld a écrit:
Quoique la dernière fois , j'ai utilisé de l'essence pour l'allumer ... il faisait trop humide.........
moi j'utilise ça ....
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même quand tout est détrempé ça fonctionne bien...
une bougie chauffe-plat dans un mini tipi posé sur une plateforme c'est impec' aussi...
Eld- Messages : 1895
Date d'inscription : 01/02/2012
Age : 46
Localisation : region toulousaine
Re: historique meta/esbit
oui c'est ça
mais conditionné comme ça c'est plus pratique que les sachets (deux percés dans le sac....heureusement ils étaient dans un zipplock ! ) et plus facile à gérer (pas obligé de cramer un sachet entier pour démarrer un feu )
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